We recognise that it is often a niche product to source so we are more than happy to guide you in what you might need, and answer any queries that you may have about our natural wooden pioneering poles. As we are strong advocats of the great outdoors (Oliver never goes anywhere without his Trangia Stove), and utlising materials from around us, its something we are extremely proud to be involved in.
Pioneering Poles are used by the Scouts and other outdoor groups for making structural projects. Sizes range according to the age groups of the participants and are typically from 1.5m to 6.0m long. Diameters range from 50mm to 70mm at the thin end with 120mm at the butt end usually a maximum. The most common Pioneering poles are 65-70mm at the top, 75-90mm at the butt and 3.0m to 5.0m long. Conifers are preferred due to their straightness and are supplied both with the bark on or fully peeled and sanded smooth. In both cases the branches are fully removed and machined to a smooth snag free finish at the knots.
What type of wood do you use for Pioneering Poles & why?
For Pioneering Poles we usually use softwoods, including Scots Pine, Douglas Fir or Norway Spuce, sustainably sourced from UK woodlands, selected and hand felled by us. We use this type of wood because it is straighter and more uniform than hardwoods, which makes building structures a lot easier! We carefully select each and every pole, using our experience, we know which trees will be most suitable for Pioneering poles. You can also get the added bonus of choosing whether to receive them with the bark on or would prefer them already peeled and sanded. Most people prefer their poles ready to go, but some like the idea of peeling their own and we can guide you how to do this safely if this is what you choose to do.
What are the benefits of using natural round wood over machine round or fence posts?
As former timber merchants ourselves our knowledge about the variety of wood on the market is vast. As such we know the benefits and limitations of each material type, and what their uses are. We love working with natural wood, particularly for uses such as Pioneering, Scout structures, Tipi Poles and Pergolas - it is ideal for this, compared to machined round wood that you may find available at a merchants. Machine round wood has been cut across the natural grain of the wood, which makes it less strong and subject to warping in strong heat. They are not particularly suitable for using for structures as their uniform nature means that ropes can slip on them more easily. Non machine round fence posts can very rough, and many of them are not straight. It is also difficult to find poles over 2.5m long and the choice of diameters are limited.
Natural round poles are amazingly strong for their size compared with square sawn timber, mainly because all the grain is still intact, natural is best peeps! The most strength is in the upright position with loads going down the length of pole. As beams there is plenty of strength if the correct size is chosen. WoodPoint are not qualified to recommend particular pioneering designs though we are happy to share our observations and experience about the materials.
What do you mean about the diameter range of the tree?
When you think of a tree, it is common to think of it as straight up and straight down, but this is not the case. When dealing with natural wood, we have to talk about diameters! The diameters of the tree will be thinner at the top than they are at the bottom, this makes them ideal for building structures, but its something that not everyone considers when buying. The most common Pioneering Poles are 60-70mm diameter at the top ( thin end) and range from 70-85mm at the thick end.
What do people usually get?
Popular lengths are 2m, 2.5m, 3m 3.5m, 4m, 5m. However, we can cut any length and diameter found in the forest. For example thin lightweight poles for younger children practicing indoors could be 1.5m long x 40-50mm diameter at the top. Or for a Venture Scout bridge or raft building project 6m long beams at 100-150mm diameter!
Any diameter from 20mm to 200mm is available within normal lead times. Larger diameters can be sourced given enough notice.
The price will depend on:
a) Order size
b) Finish on the poles e.g. bark on or peeled
c) The size mix e.g. standard or outsize specials
d) How quickly the poles are required
e) If delivery is required or the poles are collected
Bark on, bark off.... Example:
As a guide for an average order of 50 metres of poles of standard sizes most prices are in the range as follows:
Bark on @ £3.00 to £5.00 per meter excluding delivery
Peeled & sanded @ £5.00 to £7.50 per metre excluding Vat
Most orders can be fulfilled within three weeks. However if you need these quicker than this we can often help. You can collect them from us from our workshop near Southampton, or from whichever forest we are working in (currently near Reading, or Midhurst in Sussex). Do get in touch with us about Delivery / Collection and we can discuss your requirements.
The information supplied above is for guidance only and does not form part of the contract of supply or a guarantee that any particular poles are suitable for any particular end use or structure. The information is offered from observations based on thirty years of experience in wood products as help and advice in choosing natural poles where, due to their inherent variation in properties and appearance, description and specification can be hard to define.
Contact: Oliver Barnsley
Tel: 07920 056200